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🎆 JULY TESTIMONIES & PRAISES
In PRAISE Reports
🎆 JULY TESTIMONIES & PRAISES
In PRAISE Reports
andrewlongtine
Jul 05, 2024
Thank you very much!
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🎆 JULY TESTIMONIES & PRAISES
In PRAISE Reports
🎆 JULY TESTIMONIES & PRAISES
In PRAISE Reports
andrewlongtine
Jul 02, 2024
I'll try to keep this short. We believed that God had called us to a rural area. He gave me a job that allowed us to move and a house, as we were going to move in with my wife's grandparents and save all of us money and help them full-time. June 2019 - My wife and I agree that I'm going to re-up with the Air National Guard for 4 more years, for the purpose of transferring my GI Bill to my children. Two weeks later my MIL passed away and devastated my wife. August 2019 - A couple months later we are talking about moving from the cities to a rural area where my wife's grandparents live, now that their caretaker has passed. March 2020 - We decided in Feb to sell and move and broke the news to local family in March. We put our house on the market and the ****demic begins. May 2020 - God blesses us as our house closes and sells and we find ourselves in the rural area. Within 2 or 3 weeks the entire ANG is called to action for, what our governor called, peaceful protests. August 2020 - November 2020 - We take care of grandparents and their property. Grandpa passes away from dementia in September and Grandma turns on us and decides we are disingenuous. November 2020 - May 2022 - Grandma tries to use a certain news stations claims that show we are terrible people. May 2022 - My wife finds out that Grandma just had a pacemaker put in and we didn't know about the operation. My wife confronts Grandma saying that it's clear she doesn't want us in her life. Grandma, humbled, cries and says she doesn't know why she is so mean to us. May 2022 - June 2024 - The relationship is greatly strengthened and seeds are being planted. June 2024 - Grandma sells her house and moves. We pack her up, help clean and clear her house, and set everything up at her new apartment an hour away. The point - God "lured" us up north with a human's promise of no mortgage/rent and the ability to take care of grandparents. This got us to a rural area. Would we have listened otherwise? I don't know. Instead, we were able to show Jesus to my wife's grandparents. Through thick and thin, we showed we weren't disingenuous and that we were there to help and not "take" from them. My wife said it best, as she felt the Lord saying: "What if, you never get anything from your grandma but you showed up when she needed you most and she could lean on you and trust you? What if you gave her another example of a Christian?" We aren't living in the woods, in a mortgage-free house, nor are we living in the town that I would've picked but we have made great friends, been blessed with ministry opportunities, and our children are growing up in a safer environment than we were living in the cities. We didn't get what we "wanted" but we got what we needed. Praise God! Thank You for Your provision.
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andrewlongtine
May 29, 2024
Good morning Moni! Before I "word-vomit" on you in this post, I just want to say that I'm trying to clarify what I meant, answer your questions, and generally engage in this great place of community and fellowship! I am teachable and willing to learn and I will NOT ever claim to be finished understanding the word of God. BLUF: Pastor - over a congregation versus Pastor - a piece of paper claiming education and training. I'm not suggesting that women become lead pastors. Only that they can help in ministries such as lead pastoring with their husbands. I grew up in a non-denominational church (formerly Lutheran, WAY before my time) but as an adult I have been a part of several Assemblies of God denomination (actually Cooperative Fellowship) church bodies. So I'll use them in my examples. When you said "attaching titles to their wives such as Pastor" this is a term given to any person who has completed one of three levels of credentials in the AoG. My wife could be a Pastor if she wanted but just as Brad explained last week, it's just a piece of paper showing that she's completed the minimum education and training required to have that title. I know members who are "Pastors" who mow the lawn once a week in service for their church and are not heads of congregations. If, when you say Pastor, you mean the head of a congregation then this is a position elected by the local congregation (again not in the style of some denominations). I'm sure there are some churches out there, even in the Cooperative Fellowship of the AoG, that have elected a female Pastor but I'm not defending that as a practice I believe is biblical. However, a wife of a Pastor can serve in this ministry alongside her husband (whether or not she has the piece of paper showing she has the minimum education and training) and, in my humble opinion, serve in a similar role for the women of the congregation as the Pastor does for the entire congregation. Growing up, my Pastor and his wife went on missions trips and on one of the trips my Pastor passed away. For a short time his wife continued to operate in the church until her son became the Lead Pastor and she helped him and his wife, as a widow, similarly to how she had helped her husband. She was and is a great example of a Servant, just like Jesus. Are you saying culturally it was not uncommon for a wife to minister with her husband? I'm saying that today it's not uncommon for a wife to minister. Not familiar with the term “new covenant age” what Biblical time period would you consider this? The new Covenant is immediately following Jesus' death on the cross: The New Covenant is a promise made by God to forgive sin and restore fellowship with those whose hearts are turned towards Him. Jesus Christ is the mediator of the New Covenant, and His death on the cross is the basis of the promise. Key Features of the New Covenant • God’s laws will be written on the hearts of His people, rather than on tablets of stone (Jeremiah 31:33). • God will put His laws into the minds of His people, and they will be able to live according to His will (Hebrews 8:10). • The New Covenant is a covenant of forgiveness, where God promises to forgive the sins of those who turn to Him (Jeremiah 31:34). • The New Covenant is a covenant of empowerment, where God gives His people the power to live according to His will (Ezekiel 36:27). To help me understand where you are coming from, what would you say is the next item on the Eschatological Calendar? I'm not sure exactly what you mean? I will say that we are in the last days, since Jesus died on the cross. Many Pentecostal leaders that I come across these days are attaching titles to their wives such as Pastor. However I have not come across a female Pastor in any Biblical Scripture, just the opposite... Culturally, in the old testament, there were women who lead. Miriam was a prophet to Israel during the Exodus, alongside her brothers Moses and Aaron (Exodus 15:20). Deborah, both a prophet and a judge, directed Barak to lead the army of Israel into successful combat against Israel’s oppressors (Judges 4 to 5). Huldah, also a prophet, authenticated the scroll of the Law found in the temple and helped spark religious reform in the days of Josiah (2 Kings 22:14–20; 2 Chronicles 34:22–28). In the new testament: “Your sons and daughters will prophesy... Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days” (Joel 2:28,29; cf. Acts 2:16–18).1 That women as well as men are to prophesy is indicative of their inclusion in the ministries of the new covenant age. Tabitha (Dorcas) initiated an effective benevolence ministry (Acts 9:36). Philip’s four unmarried daughters were recognized prophets (Acts 21:8,9). Paul singled out two women, Euodia and Syntyche, as “women who have contended at my side in the cause of the gospel, along with Clement and the rest of my fellow workers” (Philippians 4:2,3). Priscilla was another of Paul’s exemplary “fellow workers in Christ Jesus” (Romans 16:3,4). In Romans 16, Paul greets numerous ministry colleagues, a large number of them women. In these greetings, the word Paul uses to speak of the work (kopiao), or labor, of Mary, Tryphena, Tryphosa, and Persis (Romans 16:6,12) is one he uses extensively for the labor of ministry (1 Corinthians 16:16; 1 Thessalonians 5:12; 1 Timothy 5:17). The AoG says in their position paper: "These instances of women filling leadership roles in the Bible should be taken as a divinely approved pattern, not as exceptions to divine decrees. Even a limited number of women with scripturally commended leadership roles affirm that God does indeed call women to spiritual leadership."
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andrewlongtine
May 28, 2024
Bottom-Line-Up-Front (BLUF): We may have differences in our view of scripture but I know our goal is to learn together what the Bible teaches. I love everyone who comments here as Christ loves me. 😃 I'd like to restate, respectfully, what I said in the Youtube chat. I don't think we disagree completely, necessarily, but I want to make my "opinion" plain. 😁 A woman can be a leader among a group of women, among of group of men and women (specifically a role model for women in that group) and in ministry alongside her husband. "It was not uncommon for a married woman to minister in partnership with her husband." “Your sons and daughters will prophesy... Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days” (Joel 2:28,29; Acts 2:16–18). That women as well as men are to prophesy is indicative of their inclusion in the ministries of the new covenant age. Miriam was a prophet to Israel during the Exodus, alongside her brothers Moses and Aaron (Exodus 15:20). Deborah, both a prophet and a judge, directed Barak to lead the army of Israel into successful combat against Israel’s oppressors (Judges 4 to 5). Conclusion/Summary: Pentecostals believe that unmarried women can still lead (be a servant like Jesus' example) and the Assemblies of God has a position paper on it. I don't necessarily agree with everything they say but it's a good read and has more biblical points to make) My wife is a leader with me at our church and primarily focuses on relationships with the women in this ministry.
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